This week I'm in NYC and went to the store today. I went in there looking for a pair of running pants for the colder temperatures and tried on a million things. The Base Runner Pant III were disappointing on me. They are not meant for shorties like me. (I'm 4 feet 11) I tried on the size 2 and the 4 and both looked pretty awful. These are off my wish list. Dark Fuel Base Runner Pants Size 4 Bordeaux Drama Base Runne Pants Size 2 shown with Dramatic Static Define Jacket. Next up- Fleecy Keen Jacket III in Wine Berry. I fit the Size 2 nicely, however I have an issue with how stiff the patches where the pockets are. I liked the double layer zip in the front of the jacket and the fleece was soft, but because of my short torso, the fleece bunched up in the back. So unsure if I would be willing to pay $200 for the jacket, but maybe if it hit WMTM which I doubt since it seems like the website is almost sold out in all the colors except for the Wine Berry.